When Clive Dickin took over as CEO of the NASC nearly 18 months ago, the scaffolding industry was entering a period of rapid change. Since stepping into the role, Clive has wasted no time implementing a modernisation agenda aimed at positioning NASC as the progressive, inclusive, and forward-thinking voice of the scaffolding sector.

I recently sat down with Clive at NASC’s headquarters in London for an in-depth discussion. The conversation covered everything from the success of ScaffEx24, future plans for ScaffEx25, major digitisation projects, changes to CISRS, the skills shortage, and how NASC is preparing to celebrate its 80th anniversary in 2025.

Transforming NASC

Reflecting on his tenure so far, Clive described it as “amazing” but acknowledged that transforming a long-established organisation has not been without its challenges. He spoke about the need to modernise the internal structure of both NASC and CISRS, moving away from what he called a “secretariat-based approach” that would shift direction every two years.

“That’s just not sustainable or productive in meeting the long-term needs of the sector,” he explained. “We’ve laid out a new business plan that provides stability and confidence, and we’ve already started to see the results.”

One of the most visible signs of this new direction has been NASC’s push for greater inclusivity, opening its doors to more businesses, including smaller firms. “The quality of scaffolding must always be our priority, but we need to be inclusive. We can’t have firms sitting outside the tent operating to lower standards. We need to bring people in and inspire them to raise their game,” he said.

ScaffEx: A Game-Changer

Undoubtedly, one of the most significant changes under Mr Dickin’s leadership has been the launch of ScaffEx – the NASC’s flagship event, which replaced its traditional dinner. The inaugural ScaffEx24 was held in Belfast and was widely seen as a success, despite the usual behind-the-scenes challenges that come with a first-time event.

“ScaffEx24 was about transparency and openness. We wanted an event where anyone from across the scaffolding and access sector could come along, network, and share best practices. That was our goal, and I think we achieved it,” Clive said.

Looking ahead to ScaffEx25, which will be held in Manchester, the event is set to expand significantly. “We’ve already sold three-quarters of the exhibition space. We’ll have live demonstrations, a CISRS zone, and an open day for clients to learn about good procurement practices. We’re also excited to have Nina Hossain from ITV News and Sophie Long former BBC News as our hosts,” he revealed.

While discussing the future of ScaffEx, Clive also hinted at the possibility of a national scaffolding skills competition, though he was clear that such an initiative would not happen before 2026 or 2027. “If we do it, it needs to be fair. It can’t favour one system over another. It needs to reflect the diversity of scaffolding methods used in the UK,” he said.

Digitisation: The Future of NASC and CISRS

A key part of NASC’s long-term vision is digitisation. During our interview, Mr Dickin made an exclusive announcement that the CISRS card system will soon go digital. By early 2026, scaffolders will be able to store their cards on a mobile app, allowing real-time access to their qualifications and training records.

“It will be like having your car key on your phone. Forgotten or lost cards will be a thing of the past,” Clive explained. The app will feature contactless scanning and is part of a wider six-figure investment into NASC’s digital transformation.

But that’s not all. Clive also revealed that NASC is developing a broader app to serve as a central hub for scaffolding professionals. It will offer guidance documents, safety alerts, and other key resources at the tap of a button. “We want everything scaffolders need in their pocket,” he said.

Tackling the Skills Shortage

The conversation naturally turned to the skills crisis facing the industry. Mr Dickin highlighted the NASC’s proactive approach, including the Talent Solutions programme and the scaffoldingcareers.com website, which aims to attract new talent into the industry.

However, he was candid about the need to expand CISRS training capacity. “We need more centres. We need more capacity. We need more courses. We are reviewing the specifications to make sure our training centres can meet demand,” he said.

Clive also confirmed that the CISRS CPD scheme is being reviewed, with a likely shift towards a more flexible, points-based system that incorporates digital learning.

Looking Ahead: NASC at 80

2025 will be a landmark year for NASC as it celebrates its 80th anniversary. The organisation is planning a series of events across the country, starting with a regional event in Bristol and including a riverboat celebration in London. There will also be special activities at ScaffEx25 and regional gatherings to ensure all members can join the celebrations.

“It’s not just about looking back. We’re calling it 80/20 because we want to reflect on the past 80 years but also look forward to the next 20. The future is digital, and we need to embrace that,” he said.

Final Thoughts

Throughout our conversation, one theme was constant – progress. Clive is leading NASC into a new era of inclusivity, digitisation, and transparency. While challenges remain, it is clear that under his leadership, NASC is determined to adapt, modernise, and continue raising standards across the scaffolding industry.